Thanks for pointing us towards it. Isn't that smile of his fantastic!

Kari

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Subject: Re: RM TV Guide

> I've added another webpage to the RM Tribute website. It's an RM
> TV viewing guide formatted like a planner; the URL is
> http://www.smithway.org/rm/other/tvsked.html.
         Cool!

> Hmm, if Roddy's interview is cut out of the televised version
> but retained in the video version of a biography, do I include it
> in his credits? Opinions, anyone?
         It counts as far as i'm concerned!
Paul Worley

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Subject: RM interview in AMC website

The URL is http://www.amctv.com/hollywood/roddy/story.html. The opening page is pretty nifty, too. The left frame has half of Cornelius' face while the right frame's is Roddy sans ape makeup.

There are also other webpages in the AMC site devoted to Planet of the Apes. The only thing there that bothers me is the program schedule for September -- it conflicts with the scheduling I get from TVNow, TV Guide and other TV schedule websites. I've written their webmaster but no response so far.

--Mel

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Planet of the Apes
Interview with Roddy McDowall

Of Roddy McDowall's hundred fifty or so screen appearances, the one that he is most remembered for is the one in which his face is never seen - the role of Cornelius (and, later, Caesar, and, later, Galen) in the "Planet of the Apes" series.

"One of the reasons the project was so interesting to me," says McDowall, "was that, after all, a chimpanzee isn't often called upon to act emotionally. So the acting choices were very specific - bear in mind that they had to register through this mountain of makeup." The makeup process itself was grueling work. At the beginning of the first film, it took five hours. Then, after a lot of practice, they got good at it and sped it up - down to a lightening fast three and a half hours.

There was, in fact, a period in Hollywood history where so many experienced makeup artists were busy on "Planet of the Apes" that other makeup-heavy films had to be put on hold until "Planet of the Apes" was over and they could be hired for other projects again.

The makeup presented a lot of headaches for the actors. Says McDowall, "The most difficult aspect of the films was the stamina because the hours of work were phenomenal. Everything in the movies is so technical, and in these films you had all these complex appliances on you." When the actors were not on set, they had to wait in very chilly dressing rooms, kept cold to keep the makeup fresh. "Then, suddenly, at four o'clock in the afternoon if a big scene came you had to be ready to play it."

People often wonder whether his fame in the ape movies and television series ever dulled McDowall's enthusiasm for the roles, but McDowall says that it was always fresh for him. "That was a period of seven years, and I did a lot of other things in between, so going back home to my dear old chimp was fun. And the thing that was so invigorating was the opportunity as an actor to be invited into such a wonderful theater of invention."

McDowall has warm feelings towards all the chimp characters he portrayed. Cornelius was the first, followed by Caesar, Cornelius's son. In the tv series, he played Galen. "Cornelius was something of an intellectual. Caesar was, dramatically, my favorite in the cannon because he was so tortured and demonical. It was a wonderful character. But Galen is the character I enjoyed playing the most because [in the tv series and this role in particular] there was much more leeway, much more humor and imagination."

It's been thirty years since Charlton Heston landed on the ape-controlled coast, and the films are perennial favorites in the video stores. They remain so popular, according to McDowall, because there is a universality to them. "I always thought from the inception that the apes are wildly entertaining and in many cases very funny. So the undercurrent of seriousness and of affection and decency and the quest to have people be decent and loving permeates it. It's wonderful to realize how many children growing up wanted to be chimpanzees."

That is a great picture. I just stared at it for about a minute. I wonder who took it? A self portrait, perhaps?

Joni

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Subject: listen to Roddy

STREAMING AUDIO: Actor Roddy McDowall Celebrates the 
30th Anniversary of the Sci-Fi Classic "Planet of the Apes"

     Entertainment Editors

     LOS ANGELES--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 1, 1998--A groundbreaking 
suspense-filled movie debuted in 1968 and left its mark as a science-
fiction masterpiece. In "Planet of the Apes," starring Roddy McDowall
and Charlton Heston, primates rule the world and man is feared and 
loathed as both enemy and slave. To celebrate the 30th anniversary of 
this classic, Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment is releasing 
the spectacular, original movie, fully restored and THX-certified for 
the first time, on video for a limited time only. Listen to streaming 
audio which contains comments from Roddy McDowall, who discusses the 
movie at http://www.newstream.com/r98-250.shtml  

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Planet Of The Apes   20th Century Fox

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Ok, here's an offer - take it or leave it as you see fit.

I'm going to create an online birthday card for Roddy. I'm going to use of my flower photographs as the background. If you can send me your signatures, I can place them on the photograph. You can either email me your signature that you've scanned in, or you can send it to me snail mail and I'll scan it.

I've done something similar for Chuck Norris and both times it was very well received - in fact, the last time it got me a huge bear hug! Which was kinda fun! LOL!

If you want to see one of Chuck's cards, the URL is:

http://www.nav.cc.tx.us/staff_pages/dana/bd.htm

I don't think we want to put messages on this one - just a signature - I'll put some kind of appropriate Happy Birthday message on it.

I also have the means of printing it off and sending it to Roddy after his birthday.

It's up to you guys - if you want to contribute, send me your sig.
--
Dana Holland

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Subject: interview with RM

I couldn't remember if this had been mentioned before.... anyway the following site has a real audio interview with roddy about the 30th anniversary of POTA.

http://www.newstream.com/r98-250.shtml

~jenn

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Subject: A Streetcar Named Desire

In San Francisco, Andre Previn's first opera, A Streetcar Named Desire, premieres Sept. 19, with Patrick Stewart, James Taylor, Roddy McDowell and Chuck Jones among guests. The fabulous Renee Fleming will sing the role of Blanche, and she has big blue eyes to match those of Elizabeth Taylor, who bowed out of that event but does her own AIDS benefit at Macy's that Friday with Elton John.

http://www.usatoday.com:80/life/columns/ljean.htm

--Mel

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Subject: Re: A Streetcar Named Desire

Oh great, I move FROM San Francisco and he appears there. My luck, I tell you, my luck.

Joni

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Subject: Entertainment Weekly

There's a photo of RM on page 20 of Entertainment Weekly #449 (September 11, 1998). It was taken during the August 27 commemorative screening of "Planet of the Apes" at AMPAS. It's only a small photo, but is he ever so cute!

--Mel

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Subject: POTA article

RELEASE OF VIDEO BOXED SET MARK 30-YEAR TRIBUTE TO "PLANET OF THE APES"
( St. Louis Post-Dispatch )

A drama about a world ruled by apes? With actors dressed as gorillas, chimpanzees and orangutans? Thirty years ago, the idea sounded like a joke to most of Hollywood' s movie community.

Today, "Planet of the Apes" is a recognized classic, having spawned four sequels, a live-action TV series and an animated one, books, toys and collectibles, fan groups and dozens of Web sites.

A long-discussed remake has attracted the attention of film director James Cameron ("Titanic"), and a restored and digitally remastered version of the 1968 original will be screened later this year at Radio City Music Hall. Meanwhile, the movie's 30th anniversary is being celebrated with a new video boxed set and a tribute Sunday and Monday on cable's American Movie Classics.

Roddy McDowall, who starred in four of the five "Planet of the Apes" movies and is host of the special, reminisced for TV writers earlier this summer about the pleasures and pains of playing a chimp. He was joined by co-stars Charlton Heston (by satellite) and Linda Harrison (Nova), associate producer Mort Abrahams and art director Bill Creber.

Even Heston, the first to sign on to the project, agreed that in the early going, "Planet of the Apes" seemed the unlikeliest of hits. For almost three years in the mid-1960s, producer Arthur Jacobs peddled the story to studio after studio. The response was always the same, recalled Heston: "Talking monkeys? Go on, get out of here. Ridiculous."

Even getting a studio to look at the rough script, based on a little-known French science-fiction novel about astronauts who discover a world in which apes rule and humans are slaves, was almost impossible, Heston said. He had signed on to the project early, after reading the Pierre Boulle novel, "Monkey Planet," but had almost given up hope before Richard Zanuck at 20th Century Fox agreed to take a look. Zanuck had a big concern, Heston recalled. Actors in ape suits? "What if the audience laughs?"

After innovative makeup designed by John Chambers (he created Mr. Spock's ears for "Star Trek") was tested, Zanuck OK'd the project. But the worries were far from over for Jacobs and director Franklin Schaffner.

Rod Serling came up with the movie's stunning ending, but after going through 18 drafts, he was unable to finish the screenplay, and two other writers had to be called in. And, once on the set and sweltering in ape suits, the stars wondered what they'd gotten themselves into.

McDowall was one of those who thought he'd made a big mistake. He had accepted the role eagerly. "You don't get asked to play a chimp all that often," he said. But when the makeup started to go on, McDowall had just one thought. "What can I do to get out of this movie?"

Thirty years later, McDowall vividly recalls the claustrophobia he felt when he first wore the mask that would transform him into the intellectual chimp Cornelius. Lying back to be fitted with the thick foam "appliance" designed by Chambers, "I never thought I would be able to survive."

Back home in New York, though, McDowall had a stern talk with himself and opted to take on the "tremendous acting challenge." Something about the project just felt special.

McDowall went on to document the filming of "Planet of the Apes" with his camera, and many of his photos turn up in the AMC special, "Behind the Planet of the Apes," which looks at the movie's history and legacy.

In August, on a remote California beach, the apes felt as if they were suffocating in their heavy costumes, McDowall said.

Heston, as the human Taylor, "was half naked most of the time," he recalled, laughing - but he caught pneumonia. Once, he broke out all over after working in poison ivy. "I took an awful beating in that picture," Heston recalled. "I had done a lot of pictures on horses, and driven chariots, and parted Red Seas, with a lot of charging around. But . . . here I was being chased by monkeys, and believe me, even rubber rocks hurt."

For their part, McDowall and Kim Hunter, who played his wife, Dr. Zira, were struggling to make the apes believable.

Hunter and McDowall "went and looked at the zoo, but the monkeys weren't too much help," McDowall said. "I remember putting on the costume, by now the classic costume, in the wardrobe department . . . and it just seemed terrible. You're standing up straight with this thing on, and it didn't make me feel like anything."

McDowall "kept walking around with it and doing things," and finally the solution came to him. "Because of Groucho Marx, actually," he said, citing Groucho's classic walking crouch. McDowall imagined a crouched figure with "the center of the body at the end of the spine, and the waist rigid." And he wanted a hump.

His concept won over director Schaffner, who imposed the crouch on the rest of the apes and had T-shirts built to provide the requisite hump. Finally, McDowall said, he felt like an ape.

Then, there was the problem of the makeup, which even after streamlining still took 3 1/2 hours to apply each day. "Remember, it's 30 years ago, and quite original what John Chambers designed," McDowall said. "But it was dead on the face unless you did something bizarre underneath, " exaggerating every expression.

As a result, the actors worked on two levels, McDowall said. "One was dedicated to the author's intent, and the other was purely physical, " keeping the facial appliance moving "so it was never dead." The work was exhausting, he said, but "fascinating to do because it was a unique assignment."

"Planet of the Apes" has also proven fascinating to film scholars for its social and political themes, but associate producer Abrahams says making a statement was never the intent. All those involved, he said, agreed that although the story had "ideological, sociological, economic and philosophical implications," the first priority was to make an entertaining movie.

Heston said he believed that's why "Planet of the Apes" remains popular. "It's a very good picture," he said, adding, "It sort of created a genre of space operas, which still thrive, of course. You could call `Armageddon' a space opera, except it doesn't have any dialogue."

Copyright © 1998, St. Louis Post-Dispatch

--Mel

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Subject: RM photo

There's a photo of RM in the Sept 5-11 issue of TV Guide. It's a shot from the documentary.

--Mel

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Subject: Behind the making of "Behind ..."

Published Sunday, September 6, 1998

AMC celebrates 30 years of 'Apes'

Tribune Media Services Before man, there was the ape. After man, there will be the talking ape.

At least, that's the view of a science-fiction classic getting a big tribute this week.

Commemorating the 30th anniversary of the original "Planet of the Apes" movie, American Movie Classics (AMC) presents a marathon of all the films in the series Sunday and Monday.

A highlight is the enjoyable new documentary "Behind the Planet of the Apes" (Sunday, 4:30 and 9 p.m.). Packed with behind-the-scenes footage and interviews, the two-hour program is narrated by Roddy McDowall, who starred in all but one of the movies. He wore monkey makeup again for a TV-series spinoff that CBS aired in 1974.

Each "Apes" movie chapter gets four runs over the AMC festival, although "Planet of the Apes" will have five. The other titles are "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" (1970), "Escape From the Planet of the Apes" (1971), "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" (1972) and "Battle for the Planet of the Apes" (1973).

Based on a Pierre Boulle novel, the first story sends astronaut Taylor (Charlton Heston) and fellow crew members through a time warp. They land in a world ruled by brainy apes that hunt and cage any remaining humans. Viewed with suspicion by the imperious Dr. Zaius (Maurice Evans), Taylor is befriended by sympathetic simians Cornelius and Zira (McDowall and Kim Hunter).

Veteran actor McDowall was pleased to do the "Behind the Planet of the Apes" special, even supplying his own "Apes" home movies for it. "I enjoyed my experience with the whole series, so I was happy to be involved in the documentary," he said. "I think it's intelligent, not pompous at all. It can be difficult to do something like that in a linear way, but I thought [producer-director] Kevin Burns and the others did it beautifully."

In a test made for 20th Century-Fox executives before "Planet of the Apes" got the go-ahead, James Brolin played Cornelius. When McDowall landed the part, he had no idea a franchise was being born. "You just believe in the work you're doing at the time, and you have no idea if there will be [a sequel]," he said. "I regretted immensely that the television version didn't last, because I thought it was very good."

As much time as he spent in the "Apes" makeup chair, McDowall never got used to it. He wasn't alone: "Those teams of valiant [artists] were extraordinary. I just pulled the makeup off, but for some people, it was extremely difficult. For someone with skin as delicate as Kim Hunter's, it took an hour to get it all off. That was as hard to deal with as putting it on."

With the 30-year celebration of "Planet of the Apes," McDowall wishes some of his many other films were treated similarly.

"I think 'How Green Was My Valley' should have been paid great attention on its 50th anniversary, and the same with 'Lassie Come Home,' " he said. "That sort of work is due that remembrance. Still, a canon like 'Planet of the Apes' is unique, so it's nice to see this happen."

Copyright 1998 Star Tribune. All rights reserved.

--Mel

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Subject: Re: Behind the making of "Behind ..."

Saw part of AMC's tribute today. Roddy looks soooo good. The man is amazing.

Joni

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Subject: jealousy, jealousy...

Oh, this is so depressing. I don't get AMC, so I have to read your comments on how good the POTA special is, and how great Roddy looks. All I get is yokel T.V. here in Southern Alberta, where Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman is considered must see entertainment. I hope, I hope, I hope they release a video of the Making of the Planet of the Apes. On the bright side, I may have tracked down a copy to buy of The Tempest, with RM (I think he plays Ariel?)and Richard Burton. It'll cost, and it'll be a while shipping, but woo hoo!! Anyone seen this performance?

--Kari

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Subject: more RM tv guide

ELIZABETH TAYLOR---AN INTIMATE PORTRAIT (1975)
Sun, Sep 13 4:45am - 6:00am Eastern TCM

Elizabeth Taylor is profiled by host Peter Lawford, her mother Sara Taylor, actors Rock Hudson and Roddy McDowall, directors Richard Brooks and Vincente Minnelli, costume designer Helen Rose and Samuel Marx, who produced Miss Taylor's first movie ("Lassie Come Home") in 1943. Included: scenes from several of her films made before 1963, such as "Cleopatra" and "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof."

HOLIDAY IN MEXICO (1946)
Wed, Sep 23 1:30pm - 4:00pm Eastern TCM

An ambassador's daughter falls for a famous musician. Jane Powell, Walter Pidgeon, Roddy McDowall. D: George Sydney.

--Mel

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Subject: Re: more RM tv guide

re:
>ELIZABETH TAYLOR---AN INTIMATE PORTRAIT (1975)

I'm not certain about this, but is this possibly the one in which RM sings a song to her?

--Nancy

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Subject: Re: jealousy, jealousy...

Much sympathy on the lack of AMC and the Apes fanfare, Kari, but awesome to imagine a copy of The Tempest. I've never seen it, but have been looking for absolute ages. The stills from the production are awesome. He did his own make-up--so I've read--and I can only dream how fantastic his interpretation of Ariel must be. I hope you get it, and I'll drool over your reviews then!

--Nancy

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Subject: Re: more RM tv guide

NANCY asked:
> re:
> >ELIZABETH TAYLOR---AN INTIMATE PORTRAIT (1975)
>
> I'm not certain about this, but is this possibly the one in which RM
> sings a song to her?
>

I don't know about 'Intimate Portrait', but he most definitely sang in 'An All-Star Tribute to Elizabeth Taylor' (1977). He got up from his table, joined her at hers, then sang. Only lyrics I can remember is 'Elizabeth, Elizabeth'.

--Mel

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Subject: Re: jealousy, jealousy...

> Much sympathy on the lack of AMC and the Apes fanfare, Kari,

Kari, Reel.com says the "Planet of the Apes: 30th Anniversary Collection" released recently by FoxVideo

... features all five "Apes" epics with restored prints and with remastered THX soundtracks. Also includes a coupon for a free copy of a behind-the-scenes "Apes" documentary.

> but awesome to imagine a copy of The Tempest. I've never seen it,
> but have been looking for absolute ages. The stills from the
> production are awesome. He did his own make-up--so I've read--and
> I can only dream how fantastic his interpretation of Ariel must
> be. I hope you get it, and I'll drool over your reviews then!
>
> --Nancy

Would love to see it too, especially after I read this passage from Rita Gam's book, "Actors: A Celebration" --

Will and curiosity were the touchstone of his considerable talent. Not particularly good at cold readings, he learned the entire part of Ariel for the Stratford, Connecticut, production of The Tempest. Giving a terrific audition, he got the part and was the first male actor to play the part in fifty years. His was an amazing Ariel, and he more than held his own opposite veteran Shakespeare hands like Christopher Plummer and Raymond Massey.

--Mel

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Subject: RE: jealousy, jealousy...

I actually have a copy of The Tempest - it was sent to me by a very wonderful friend ... I found it just as interesting seeing Richard Burton do Caliban - and yes Roddy is fun to watch ....

Janeen (from the Land Down Under)

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Subject: Video tape question

I'm still new to this group so I'll be asking silly questions for a while.... anyway, do you guys ever do tape trees? In one of the mailing lists I'm on anytime someone gets something incredible on tape that is not available on local television or pro-video tapes we do tape trees so a) everyone can see it and b) everyone can discuss it. The original tape gets dubbed and the owner sends the copy to the first person on the list who pays the postage to send it to the next person on the list and eventually it gets back to the owner. everyone dubs the tape and no one keeps the original is the idea.

--jennifer

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Subject: Re: more RM tv guide

Mel wrote:
>I don't know about 'Intimate Portrait', but he most definitely sang
>in 'An All-Star Tribute to Elizabeth Taylor' (1977). He got up from
>his table, joined her at hers, then sang. Only lyrics I can
>remember is 'Elizabeth, Elizabeth'.

Ah, that's probably the one, then. I remember that lyric, as well! (Catchy, hmmm?) Thanks for solving that mystery.
--Nancy

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Subject: Roddy's card

The birthday card I created for Roddy is now online - there's still time to let me know if you want your name on it.

Also, I'm going to have a guestbook where you can put birthday messages to Roddy.

Here's the URL for the card:

http://www.nav.cc.tx.us/staff_pages/dana/roddy/roddybd.htm

Dana Holland

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Hi,
         Just wanted to say that I won't be around for a while. I happen to be getting married tomorrow and will be gone a few days. I don't have time (and don't know how) to send my name for Roddy's birthday, maybe next year.

Joni

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

DANA wrote:
>
> The birthday card I created for Roddy is now online - there's still
> time to let me know if you want your name on it.
>

Dana,

Add my name, please!!!!!

Beth Proctor

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Great, So where is this guestbook so that I can sign it?????

Inquiring minds Really Need to know!

--LadyMara

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

DANA wrote:
>
> The birthday card I created for Roddy is now online - there's still
> time to let me know if you want your name on it.
>

Hi Dana! I'd really love to have my name on that card, but I don't have a scanner (pul-eeze! I just barely got Windows 95!), and if I sent my name to you snail-mail, I'd be lucky if it got to you by Roddy's next birthday. Any way you could just sign me on it somewhere? Just give him "Best wishes, from Kari Prince", or some such thing. Thanks!

By the way, I just got that Entertainment Weekly mag this week and flipped directly to pg. 20. Too nifty! I don't think I've ever seen Kim Hunter out of her ape makeup before. But Arnold Scwartzen.. (I can never spell that) in the new Apes? God help us all.

Kari

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

> Dana,
> Add my name, please!!!!!
>
> Beth Proctor
>

Ok! It will go up on Monday!

Dana Holland

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Dana, please add my name too, as I can't seem to open the script option. I'm having a lot of problems with my computer.

Thanks

Sue Hailson

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Ok, Joni - just give me your last name (or someone else can) - I don't have time to do the signatures, so I'm just putting the names on there. You can look at the card (with the names I have so far) at:

http://www.nav.cc.tx.us/staff_pages/dana/roddy/roddybd.htm

The guestbook is linked off my Roddy web page (which isn't very far along yet):

http://www.nav.cc.tx.us/staff_pages/dana/roddy/roddy.htm

Dana Holland

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Dana, please add my name as well. I'll try and snail mail it to you, but it probably won't get there in time.

Thanks!

Lynne Ackerman

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

dana --

please add my name as well.

thanks!

Scott Ross

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Dana,
The card is wonderful! I would be very proud and pleased if you would add my name as well, if I'm not too late. Thanks so much for putting this together.
--Nancy Babb

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Thanks !!!! I appreciate it!!!!! HEre is my NEW name: Joni Jackson.

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Hi,

Please add my name to the card.

Pamela Herndon
Pam, a.k.a Katy Scarlett

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Please add my name,
Kyoko Matsumoto Wright.

by the way, nice looking card.

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Hey, Dana!

The more the merrier. Please add 'Imelda Santos' to the card. Thanks.

Oh, and I'm so forgetful nowadays, so I thought I'd better say an advanced

for your own birthday on September 17th.

--Mel

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

and sabryna, and sabryna, and sabryna

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

> and sabryna, and sabryna, and sabryna
>
>

Ok, do any of the sabryna's have a last name? :-)

For all those who sent me their names, I'll put them on tomorrow - you should see them by tomorrow evening.

Dana Holland

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

just sabryna, please, thankyou

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

Dana...
         I don't have a scanner to send my signature and it's a little too late to send it by snail-mail, however, if you can add my name to the card, it would be greatly appreciated. My name (just in case you forgot) is:

         Yalita Bennett

Thanks again. Looking forward to seeing the final product.

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Subject: RM's birthday card

Hey everyone,

If you haven't seen Dana's card for Roddy you need to see it. It's nice seeing all those names on there. Thank you, Dana, for doing that for all of us. Also, everyone that can needs to sign the guestbook. This is his 70th, and it would be great if everyone in the group could sign it.

Janet

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Subject: Re: RM's birthday card

JANET wrote:
> If you haven't seen Dana's card for Roddy you need to see it.
> It's nice seeing all those names on there. Thank you, Dana, for
> doing that for all of us. Also, everyone that can needs to
> sign the guestbook. This is his 70th, and it would be great if
> everyone in the group could sign it.
>
Unfortunately, not everyone has web access.

Lynne Ackerman

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Subject: The Tempest/wanting to meet other RM fans

I noticed that some people were looking for a copy of Roddy in The Tempest.

I have one, and would be happy to make copies for people...however...and it's a big "however"...I won't be able to do it until some time in November. If anyone still needs one then, please e-mail me privately after November 6 and I should have time to do dubs then.

In the meantime, in about a month I'll be going on an extended trip to Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Phoenix, Arizona. If anyone lives in or near those areas, and would like to meet while I'm there, please contact me off-list. It would be great to get together with other RM fans!

Lynne Ackerman

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Subject: Roddy's card

Ok, I have two more names to put on the card in the morning - sabryna and Yalita. Any more?

And don't forget to sign the guestbook!!!

Dana Holland

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Subject: New Member B. Pixler

hi.
I and just beginning to work with the web and have run across your web site. I am a fan of Roddy McDowall and would love to get more information on him, especially if he would be passing through the Cleveland-Akron Ohio area.

Thanks
B. Pixler

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Subject: Dana

Hey, Dana!

Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday to you,
Happy birth-day, hap-py birth-daaayyyy
Happy birthday to you!

--Mel

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Subject: New Member Jena

We have another new member!

Let's all welcome Jena McGowan of Illinois.

--Mel

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Subject: Re: RM's birthday card

If you know anyone that wants to sign, but doesn't have web access - tell them to send me the message and I'll put it in there for them.

And I'll be happy to print off copies of the guestbook and/or birthday card for anyone that wants them.

> > If you haven't seen Dana's card for Roddy you need to see it.
> > It's nice seeing all those names on there. Thank you, Dana, for
> > doing that for all of us. Also, everyone that can needs to
> > sign the guestbook. This is his 70th, and it would be great if
> > everyone in the group could sign it.
> >
> Unfortunately, not everyone has web access.
>
> Lynne Ackerman

Dana Holland

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Subject: Re: Roddy's card

> http://www.nav.cc.tx.us/staff_pages/dana/roddy/roddybd.htm


Hi Dana,
I just had a second to look at the Birthday Card. It is Beautiful !!!!! You did such a great job!!! Thank you for taking it upon yourself to do it and for all your hard work. It turned out perfectly.
Joni

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Subject: Re: Dana

Thanks!

The Musgrave Foundation wrote:
>
> Hey, Dana!
>
> Happy birthday to you,
> Happy birthday to you,
> Happy birth-day, hap-py birth-daaayyyy
> Happy birthday to you!
>
> --Mel

--
Dana Holland

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Subject: Re: Dana

A Verrrrry Happy Birthday to you, Dana. Here's wishing you all the best.

-- Mara

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Subject: Re: Dana

Happy birthday, Dana!!

Lynne Ackerman

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Subject: Re: New Member Jena

Welcome, Jena!

Lynne Ackerman

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Subject: Re: New Member Jena

Welcome, Jena McGowan of Illinois!

Janet

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Subject: Re: New Member Jena

Welcome Jena !!
         I am Joni, I don't write a whole lot, but enjoy reading what others have to say and learning anything new about Roddy that they offer.

Joni

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Subject: Mr. McDowall's illness

I read Dana's guestbook for Mr. McDowall's birthday and saw two entires talking about his illness. Is he okay? Thanks.

Paige-Marie Hamilton

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Subject: Re:Mr. McDowall's illness

Cancel my question. i've just found out.

Paige-Marie Hamilton

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Subject: Sad News

Hi everyone,

I feel like I've been kicked in the stomach. I get home from work, and my mom calls me to tell me about Roddy. I turned on the TV and flipped through the channels to see if she could possibly have heard wrong. I couldn't find anything, so I checked alt.showbiz.gossip--and their it was.

Pam

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Subject: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

ARCHERD: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer
Friday, September 18, 1998

By Army Archerd, Daily Variety Senior Columnist

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - I phoned Roddy McDowall on Wednesday to wish him a happy 70th birthday -- only to be told he was unable to come to the phone; he was resting and, I was further informed, he is terminally ill with cancer.

The suddenness of this illness has shocked us. Roddy was as recently as last month busily helping with the celebration of the 30th anniversary of "Planet of the Apes" for which he did a special video, having starred in four of the five features.

McDowall is one of Hollywood's strongest supporters -- not only the industry, its players and its product, but a constant and active contributor to the Motion Picture and TV Fund with royalties from his beautiful books, "Double Exposure," his photos of friends, the great and near/great, along with stories about them. He has also been a tireless worker and board member of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences.

From the time he started in the biz here in John Ford's "How Green Was My Valley" (1941) through the "Lassie" and "Flicka" films, on to Broadway and a Tony, back to Hollywood, the "Planet of the Apes" and the small screen series. He also won an Emmy for "Not Without Honor." He segued between drama, comedy, family and horror films and musicals. He has been a true friend and supporter of the biz and Roddy has also been a constant confidant and close friend to Elizabeth Taylor, at her side during all of her illnesses and marital travails. We all wish Roddy well.

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'Planet of the Apes' star Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- "Planet of the Apes" star Roddy McDowall reportedly has cancer.

The 70-year-old actor, whose credits also include John Ford's 1941 classic "How Green Was My Valley" as well as "Lassie" and "Flicka" movies, has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, Daily Variety columnist Army Archerd reported Friday. The type of cancer wasn't specified.

McDowall's agent Craig Shapiro issued a terse "no comment" and telephone calls placed to the actor's Studio City home rang unanswered.

Archerd said he called the actor to wish him a happy 70th birthday on Thursday and was told that McDowall was resting and was unable to come to the phone. He was also told that McDowall was terminally ill with cancer, but there was no elaboration.

On Sept. 3, McDowall took part in a Los Angeles Zoo celebration marking the 30th anniversary of "Planet of the Apes" and the unveiling of the zoo's new ape exhibit. McDowall looked healthy at the event, although he complained of back pain.

McDowall did not appear in the first sequel, "Beneath The Planet of The Apes" in 1970 but he did return for "Escape from the Planet of the Apes" in 1971, "Conquest of the Planet of The Apes" 1972 and "Battle for the Planet of the Apes" in 1973. He also played in the short-lived TV series.

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I found the first report very early this morning. I've spent the whole day searching for more news, hoping to find a denial. I'm sorry to say all I've found is the second report.

Please include him in your prayers.

--Mel

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

i could just cry a river, it just dosen't seem fair, i don't want to believe that he could be leaving us soon. it seems doubly unfair that the news came so close to his birthday. if any of us believe in miracles we better start praying very hard, really soon. please send him my regards

sabryna

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Subject: Re: Sad News

I'm floored! I just heard the news on "E! News daily" show. I was just thinking when I watched some of the POTA's I taped from AMC that he looked a bit fatigued when he spoke briefly at the beginning of each film.

Is it too late to add a messge to accompany Dana's card? How do I read/write entries? Where would one send cards or letters (snail mail) to Roddy?

Pamela

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Subject: Roddy's illness

I'm really shocked and saddened by this news as I'm sure all of us are. He always looked and seemed so healthy. Is there anything we can do for him?

Janet

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

I've already lit a candle for Roddy, as well as saying several prayers for him.

Ya know, it's funny....I was thinking lately whenever I saw him on TV or a recent photo of him, how thin he looked. Just not fair! He's done so much for so many.

--Lady Mara

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

I have loved RM for almost 30 years... never posted before but I just have to say I am still in shock... I can hardly believe it. I thought he looked great as always in the POTA special.
I wish now I'd gotten my name on that birthday card. I'm usually shy when it comes to stuff like that. I am kicking myself.
Is there any way we can send best wishes?
Thanks all,
Nancy M

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Subject: Re: Sad News

I am in total shock! I heard the news when one of my oldest and dearest friends called me up to tell me he'd just heard it on Entertainment Tonight. We are both diehard Elizabeth Taylor and Roddy fans, only my friend doesn't have a computer so he's not on the list.

This is just so tragic. I'll add my prayers to everyone else's. Dana, thank you so much for all the work you put into the birthday card, it's doubly wonderful now. At least Roddy knows he has fans that really care about him, and are wishing him well.

Lynne Ackerman

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

         I need to add my dismay, I have been crying off and on since I found out. I discovered Roddy at a time in my life when I needed to have an outlet to cling to, I researched him and read everything I could put my hands on about him, I watched every movie/TV show he was in and studied his every move. My parents teased me about him by giving me pictures of apes (which I put in my RM scrapbooks). He was such a part of my life. He has always been just "Roddy" in my family. Lately, I have still followed him, and was quietly proud of all his accomplishments.
         I am going to continue to pray for a miracle, I truly believe God can provide one. Roddy deserves one.
Joni

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

Dear Joni,

I totally understand where you are coming from. I too "met" him at a time in my life when I had no one else. It no doubt was his love of his family of friends and their love and constant praise of him in return, that I latched on to. My wish for him right now, other then getting well of course, is that he is surrounded by loved ones. He is in my prayers as is all of you feeling the pain of this sad turn of events.

Paige-Marie Hamilton

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

Joni, I'm with you. For 37 years Roddy has been my real person "imaginary" friend. Since I was fourteen years old and going through a very lonely period in my life, Roddy has been my confidant, guardian and counselor. Off and on whenever I had a problem in my life to tough for me to solve alone, in my mind I would turn to him and we always were able to come up with an answer. To the point that when I was going through my divorce, my counselor told me I had it pretty much all together,and I told him it was because I would talk things over with my "imaginary friend". I didn't find out until two sessions later that my counselor was an old school chum of Roddy's. After I was through my embrassment, he told me I couldn't have picked a better friend and I believe it, even though Roddy and I have never met. You're luckier than I am, however, my parents know I've been a fan of Roddy's for many years, but if they ever knew how much,and to what extent they would probably have me back in counseling.I agree again with you too on God. Obviously we don't have any say as to when and where people come in and out of our lives, hopefully Roddy (or Rory as I'm fond of calling him) will be in our lives for a few years to come. With my shaky new position at work and my nephew's brain tumor (which was thankfully successfully removed), I'm not ready to give Roddy up just yet. I think we all still need him in our lives.

Best wishes and keep praying for that miracle. I'll be there right along with you.

Sue

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Subject: Re: Sad News

God, it's amazing how attached you can get to a person you've never met. Roddy had better fight to stay with us, because he's got a lot of fans that would miss him greatly. I hope he knows this to be true.

Kari

>
> I feel like I've been kicked in the stomach. I get home from work,
> and my mom calls me to tell me about Roddy. I turned on the TV and
> flipped through the channels to see if she could possibly have heard
> wrong. I couldn't find anything, so I checked alt.showbiz.gossip--and
> their it was.
>
> Pam

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

Sue, I'm with you. I've been a fan of Roddy's for about that long - and I've used him as a "crutch" during hard times. And my parents *do* know how I feel about him - and they support me.

Dana Holland

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Subject: Re: Sad News

I know what you all mean when you talk about Roddy as your "imaginary real person." I admit, I still find myself having "conversations" with him as I drive along. It helps to have such a wonder face in my mind as I think out loud.

I am so glad I made that drive to Jacksonville. I truly pray that it is a misdiagnosis and, that if it is not, that he is as little pain as possible. He can't leave us just yet-I am just selfish enough to want to keep him around just a bit longer.

Beth

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

         Thank you all for understanding my grief over Roddy. Not many people would, that is why I love being in this group so much. We need to stick together.

Joni

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Subject: Re: Sad News

I was wondering something last night......I know people hearing the news at this time are in shock, however, I'm wondering just how long Roddy knew about this. I think he knew sometime last year and that the announcement just means it's really come right down to the wire. God, I know you're listening.....we NEED A REAL MIRACLE! For all those times that he was there for others (those who have met and known him and not), please be there for him now.

Bright blessings,

Lady Mara (Yalita Bennett)

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Subject: Prayer

Last night I dreamed I was talking to Roddy about his illness. I dreamed all night long it seemed. When I awoke this morning I was so depressed. But I'm with Joni (hope I've got the right person in mind).....I still believe in miracles. God can answer prayer if He so wishes to spare Roddy's life. There's always hope ........................................................................... I, too, was wondering if he has known about this for some time. I'm crying as I write this. I haven't been able to cry until now.

Janet

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Subject: Re: New Member B. Pixler

> I and just beginning to work with the web and have run across your
> web site. I am a fan of Roddy McDowall and would love to get more
> information on him, especially if he would be passing through the
> Cleveland-Akron Ohio area.

         Hi!
         Welcome to the group!
         you're not too far away from me. I'm right across the OH/PA border in Farrell, PA. Where close to Akron/Cleveland are you?
         What's the "B" stand for?

Paul Worley

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

Hang in there Sabryna. I can't believe we're keeping a death watch not for our lust-for-life Roddy. Keep praying and visualizing him walking out his front door similing and strong - admonishing us for all the fuss.

Sue

>
> i could just cry a river, it just dosen't seem fair, i don't want to
> believe that he could be leaving us soon. it seems doubly unfair
> that the news came so close to his birthday. if any of us believe in
> miracles we better start praying very hard, really soon. please send
> him my regards
>
>
> sabryna
>
>
>

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Subject: Two new members

Hey, people, let's all give a warm welcome to our newest members - Claire Steed and Stephanie.

--Mel

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Subject: Roddy

Hello everyone.

I know we've all been out of sort since the news came out last Friday about Roddy's (alleged) illness. I've spent the whole of yesterday and this morning checking the online news but there's been no further releases. It's been so frustrating as there's so much lack of details in the Archerd report, and all the news that came out after just quoted Archerd.

Please be assured that if I do find anything new, especially a direct statement from Roddy, I will forward it immediately to the group. In the meantime, let's all hope and pray for the best.

--Mel

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Subject: Re: Two new members

Hi Claire and Stephanie !!!
         Welcome, and join in anytime. People here are great!

Joni

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

> Hang in there Sabryna. I can't believe we're keeping a death watch not
> for our lust-for-life Roddy. Keep praying and visualizing him walking out
> his front door similing and strong - admonishing us for all the fuss.

You're absolutely right, Sue. I *can* picture that. And that is *exactly* what Roddy would do.

Dana Holland

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Subject: Re: Two new members

> Hey, people, let's all give a warm welcome to our newest members -
> Claire Steed and Stephanie.
>
Welcome!

Lynne Ackerman

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Subject: Re: Two new members

Hi Claire and Stephanie--welcome aboard.

Sue

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>
> Hi Claire and Stephanie !!!
>          Welcome, and join in anytime. People here are great!
>
> Joni
>
>

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Subject: Re: Two new members

>
> Hi Claire and Stephanie !!!
>          Welcome, and join in anytime. People here are great!
>
> Joni

Hey Stephanie and Claire! (Thought I'd give Stephanie a break and put her name first in this one) You picked a sad time to join us, but perhaps it's a good time as well. All the more fans to cheer him through his illness, right? I'd be interested in knowing what your favorite R.M. film is (that goes for everybody, here!), AND NO FAIR PICKING MORE THAN ONE. This is the all time fav I'm going for.

Kari

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Subject: Re: Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer

Roc,
         Have you been past RM's house? I was wondering if there was any activity going on over there...

Paul Worley

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Subject: (Fwd) Join RMGROUP mailing list

Welcome to the group, Stephanie. Now we have to figure out a way to distinguish you from the Stephanie who joined earlier this day.

--Mel

Forwarded by R.L. Smith-Graham <roc@smithway.org>
---------------- Original message follows ----------------
From: "stephanie d loomis" <DELOOMIS@prodigy.net>
To: <roc@smithway.org>
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:13:48 -0600
Subject: Join RMGROUP mailing list

Plaese sign me up for your mailing list . It's from your page that I learn the news of Mr. McDowall's illness. Been a hopeless fan since I was 10, so it's somewhat like hearing about a favorite uncle is ill!! Thanks again for a great site.

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Subject: My story

I have been very moved by some of your messages regarding your "relationships" with Roddy. They have convinced me once again of what a special individual he is. He seems to have been blessed with an amazing gift - to be such a comforting presence in the lives of so many people - many that he doesn't even know.

My story is similar to some that have been posted here. I am an adult child of an alcoholic. Needless to say, my childhood was not ideal. I discovered Roddy at a time when I was desperate for guidance. I think that I was drawn to him because he was such a supporter of the arts and my love of the arts had made me a bit of an oddity among the people that I knew. In Roddy, I found the father figure that I had always longed for.

Like some of you mentioned, when things would get difficult, I would go off and "talk things over" with Roddy. He was a godsend, and I truely believe that had it not been for his influence in my life, I might have gone down the path of addiction or codepenence that befalls so many children of alcoholics. Instead, I embraced the arts, and, although my calling turned out to be literature rather than theatre, I still felt connected to Roddy. I followed his career with interest and always wished the best for him.

In the face of the devestating news about him, it is wonderful to find comfort in knowing that I am not alone in the way that he has touched my life. Thank you for sharing your stories.

I am praying for Roddy.

Love,
Cheryl

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Subject: Two new members

Welcome Claire and Stephanie.

Janet

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Subject: Re: Two new members

Kari asked for all time fave Roddy movie.

For some reason I've always liked Lord Love A Duck.

Lynne Ackerman

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Subject: Re:Favourite RM film...

My favourite film has to be the very first film I ever saw him in; and that was a 1964 movie titled Shock Treatment, with Stuart Whitman, and Lauren Bacall. Something 'bout his eyes that just captured my heart there and then.

-- Lady Mara

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Subject: Roddy

Roddy has been my idol since I was 11 when my dad took me and my little sister to see him at the Cirque Theater in Seattle in Charley's Aunt in about 1975.

He was my surrogate boyfriend at 15, in 1980, when I first saw Lord Love a Duck just days before I started high school. He didn't have to be a surrogate for long though because I almost immediately met a boy there who has always reminded me of the Mollymauk in real life! It was a good omen because that boy continued to be a wonderful friend to me long into my adult life.

I spent all this week end compiling an emergency maternity wardrobe for myself, my life flashing before my eyes, my mind wandering back to the point at which I abandonded my "boys are icky" mentality for a "maybe boys aren't so bad (grin!)" mentality. Roddy McDowall, including that same invisible Roddy that visited & encouraged so many of you, certainly had hand in that!!

It was a shock to come to work today and read the sad e mail that Roddy is so ill. It's my experience that the managers and publicists of entertainers resist any mention of illness at all cost, so for them to come out and say that their client is "terminally" ill, they usually mean it. I'm not a religious person, as many of you are, but I do trust Roddy's judgement ability. I trust him to know what care is best for him, if he can fight and shake off an illness; I trust him to know if something is too hard to fight and at what point it is ok to let go.

I wish at least one of you lived in Minneapolis right now. I miss Sally & Tami.

-Kathy

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Subject: favorite movies

To continue the discussion of favorite Roddy movies:

One of my favorite movies with Roddy has to be "The Adventures of Bullwhip Griffin." I know I've watched it as many as 50 times. It's such a delightful and entertaining movie. Another one has to be "Fright Night." I loved his portrayal of Peter Vincent, vampire killer. There are so many, but these two stand out to me, and it's interesting because they are totally different and years apart. I guess that shows his versatility as an actor. I hope he knows at this particular time how much he is loved and admired, not only as an actor, but more importantly, as a person.

--Janet

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Subject: Invisible Roddy

Also, if you want to not feel so alone in being an adult with an invisible friend (or more), please see the film "Drop Dead Fred". The invisible friend in this film has definate Mollymauk-ish qualities!!

-Kathy, a visible friend to an entire invisible entourage

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Subject: Hello, everybody out there!

Yup, I loved Peter Vincent in Fright Night too. That was probably the first role I remember seeing Roddy in, when I was a teenager. It was one of those movies that we watched at parties that was scary, but not tastless and not without humor (kind of like Scream is now). He was also really gorgeous in Cleopatra, however, with that blonde 'do! It's amazing how he can play such wonderful creeps in some movies, then reach out and grab your heart in others. I also just found out that Roddy's in that new Pixar film "A Bug's Life". I'm looking forward to that (he's apparently "Mr. Soil"). I can't say I ever had what is being called an "invisible friend" in Roddy, but I do know his talented presence in a movie always cheers me up. He's one of the few stars I know of that deserves fame and recognition, and it just crushes me to know he's so ill. I'm also not religious, but I'm hoping for the best for him.

Kari

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Subject: Re: favorite movies

I liked Bullwhip Griffin too, but I was nineteen when it came out and soooo green with envy at the kisses between Roddy and Susanne Pleshette, that it is not my favorite. My favorite has to be "Cleopatra". Those two stirring speeches he gives in the second half of the movie still cause chills to run up and down my spine.

Sue

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>
> To continue the discussion of favorite Roddy movies:
>
> One of my favorite movies with Roddy has to be "The Adventures
> of Bullwhip Griffin." I know I've watched it as many as 50 times.
> It's such a delightful and entertaining movie. Another one has to
> be "Fright Night." I loved his portrayal of Peter Vincent, vampire
> killer. There are so many, but these two stand out to me, and it's
> interesting because they are totally different and years apart. I
> guess that shows his versatility as an actor. I hope he knows at
> this particular time how much he is loved and admired, not only as
> an actor, but more importantly, as a person.
>
> --Janet
>
>

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Subject: Re: My story

Cheryl. Thanks for your story. The easiest way I can relate my story in 25 words or less is to have you listen to the Neil Dimond song "shilo". As a child I was constantly being compared to my older sister (who I love dearly but who is nothing like me--I'm the sensitive pisces and the misfit in my family). My mother although nurturing, had no time or patience for the exta hugs I needed and so I withdrew into my self. My dad supported me in my love of singing, dancing and acting, but far being an alcoholic he was a work-a-holic and I rarely saw him growing up.

I first saw Roddy on television in "How Green was My Valley" when I was ten. I looked into those big, sad brown eyes (much like my own) and I was hooked. It wasn't until I was fourteen, however that Roddy and I really connected. I matured in face and body early. Though never beautiful, I was too pretty for the other girls to like me, and too busty to be comfortable with boys. Like you, Roddy was just the person I needed.

Eighteen years older than I, he scolded me when I was mischievious, praised me when I was good and loved me all the time. And like "Shilo" was always there for me no matter what the problem. Hopefully this cancer will go into remission for many years and he'll be back with us soon.

Best wishes,

Sue

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Subject: Re: Two new members

"Cleopatra." With "The Legend of Hell House" a close second.

Sue

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>
> Hey Stephanie and Claire! (Thought I'd give Stephanie a break and
> put her name first in this one) You picked a sad time to join us,
> but perhaps it's a good time as well. All the more fans to cheer
> him through his illness, right? I'd be interested in knowing
> what your favorite R.M. film is (that goes for everybody, here!),
> AND NO FAIR > PICKING MORE THAN ONE. This is the all time fav I'm
> going for.
>
> Kari
>
>

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Subject: Welcome, Morgan

Hi, group, here's a first message from our newest member. Welcome to the group, Morgan!

--Mel

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I saw your web site a while ago and now that my computer is operating normally again I I'd like to join your group.

I guess this is where I say something about myself. My name is Morgan and I'm in my early 30's. I first saw Mr McDowall in The Adventures of Bullwhip Griffin. I'm sure the members of your group will understand when I say that there is no completely adequate why to describe my thoughts or feelings towards Mr McDowall. [Which is not to say I'm an over-the-edge fanatic.]

Hope to hear from you soon.

-- Morgan

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Subject: Names

Well, how about I use my nickname , DeLoom?
thanks for a great site, found you about 2 years ago.
Been a fan of Mr McDowall's since a friend got me hooked on the Apes films,about time of TV show. But in my late teen found a mom-a-pop movie house that show only family and/or Classic films. Saw HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY for the 1st time, still think it one of John Ford's best. If anyone ask me my best loved of all time it would on it. It got me to love Master Roddy's work.
Any more news about his heath?
Thanks Again --DeLoom-

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Subject: Re: Roddy

i also think that it is sad that roddy never had children, he would just be the ultimate as a father, loving, caring, sometimes stern but always affectionate, i am so distraught over this whole situation

sabby

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Subject: Re: My story

i can always picture roddy in poseidon being vulnerable and also in an episode of night gallery where he was supposed to be mean, but what a bad casting because he is just so loveable and huggable you could never believe him to be a mean person!!! i just love him !!!!

sabby

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Subject: Re: Welcome, Morgan

Welcome, Morgan!

Lynne Ackerman

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Subject: My Story...

Hey guys:

I know I never post, but I wanted to tell you something about my experience with Roddy since we are all "confessing".

A few years ago I had a really bad horse back riding accident while showing at a very high level of competition. My horse took a 5 foot combination wrong down at a show in Texas, and he rolled over on me, causing me to have a cerebral hemmorage which put me in a coma for nearly 2 weeks.

It was doubtful for a while if I would come out of it, or what type of damage I would have from it. My mother, very stressed, to say the least, decided she would try something, so she got some books on tape featuring Roddy and played them by my hospital bed in the evenings. She noticed that my eyes would move whenever I heard him so she kept it up.

Well, what I can remember from all of it is that I kept having dreams that Roddy and I were both really young, (Lassie age), and we were riding ponies over endless pastures like the wide open places we have in Virginia. We were best friends, if only for a few days.

The next thing I knew what that I was awake in my hospital room, wondering what the fuss was all about. I had some long hard therapy after all of that, but I think Roddy really got me through it, whether he knows it or not.

Since then I have written to him a few times, received one or two answers from him, but have never told him about any of this.

Back in early August, I got a great photo of him as a child, and sent it to him to have it signed (obviously not knowing how ill he was). But the last paragraph I put in the letter read, "I hope you realize that every nice thing you do (and I know you've done some pretty nice things over the years) is appreciated by those of us who have been both awed and inspired by your wonderful contributions to the world". Right now, I don't even care if I get the photo back, I'm just glad I was able to say my peace.

Now I'm glad I was able to get that message across to him. Guys.. I think he does know that we are all praying for him, and that he is loved by all his fans and friends.

Lisa Ermini

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Subject: Liz stands by her dear friend

To share with other grieving fans, I got this from the NY Post - Neil Travis's column

Nancy M

Roddy's illness a blow for Liz

THE news that Roddy McDowall is rapidly losing a battle with terminal cancer has saddened his legion of friends in the industry, none more so than Elizabeth Taylor, who has been at his bedside since his latest medical crisis arose last week.

The loss of her best chum will be devastating for Taylor. For decades, Roddy would come to Elizabeth's house every Sunday for brunch, where he'd snap all her famous friends. (He is an accomplished and published photographer.)

The sudden onset of his illness has shocked and surprised his New York friends as well. He was in town looking quite chipper a month or so ago and was the star of Madison Square Garden's most recent presentation of "A Christmas Carol."

Favorite film---"Cleopatra"---especially the scenes between he and Elizabeth Taylor. Remember the last scene they have together where they continually glare at each other? And the look on his face when she askes about her son. Priceless!! Also the two of them together on "Hotel". I realize it wasn't a film, but... Again, their final scene together, when she thanks him for being such a good friend. It moved me then, however, to see it now is even more touching.

Paige-Marie Hamilton P.S. Welcome Morgan.

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Subject: Hello

Greetings to all the wonderful folks on this mailing list. Thanks for your kind welcomes and apologies to Mel for such a brief sign-up email -- I wasn't sure if I was dealing with some automated thingy or not, as I've never been on this kind of mailing list before. I'm also hoping I mail this post to the list correctly. Please direct me, Mel, if I do it wrong!

I'm newbie Stephanie Samek (as opposed to the other Stephanie who signed up!) I know I joined your group at a really depressing time but it was news of Roddy's illness that prompted me to frantically start canvassing the web for any information other than that short blurb which was released. As a result I discovered your list, and I'm glad I did. I've been a preoccupied brooding mess since this came down and it's such a relief to be in the company of other people who understand how I feel. I developed a 'crush' on Roddy as a kid which I never completely got over (now in my 30's) and have always held him in the highest esteem and regard. If I was able to pick my friends from anybody in the world he would be near the top of the list.

Basically, I'm afraid I'm way too fond of this man to be able to handle his becoming seriously ill with much grace. And I'm not ready to write him off, no matter what anyone sez. (I'm sure you all agree.) Still, it would be nice if somebody would clue us in as to what the HECK is going on.

Geez, this is agony.

Stephanie the Sam

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Subject: Re: Two new members


----------
>
> Hey Stephanie and Claire! (Thought I'd give Stephanie a break and
> put her name first in this one) You picked a sad time to join us,
> but perhaps it's a good time as well. All the more fans to cheer him
> through his illness, right? I'd be interested in knowing what your
> favorite R.M. film is (that goes for everybody, here!), AND NO FAIR
> PICKING MORE THAN ONE. This is the all time fav I'm going for.
>
> Kari
>
>
God, Kari, that's a tall order. Only ONE? Still, I have to shamefully admit that I haven't seen nearly as many of RM's movies as I would have liked, but the ones I have seen I love. I guess I'd have to say Fright Night's my fav cause that has an es-special place in my collection and I seem to wind up watching it at least once a year. But I'm sure I can think of something I like just as much if you give me a few minutes...

Oh, and since I just unglued myself from AMC's Planet of the Apes revival, I have to add that out of that particular series I liked the third movie best. (Umm, Escape from P an E, I think.) That one always makes me cry.

Stephanie the Sam

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Subject: Re-Favourite RM film / Roddy

I always say that "Legend of Hell House" is my favorite. (Lots of Roddy and he lives all the way to the end - I always love a movie where Roddy makes it to the end) But if I had only one film to watch I think I would choose "Molly and Me". Roddy doesn't have as much screen time in "Molly" but he is so fun to watch. I haven't seen nearly all of his films yet though.

I haven't been a fan as long as most of you (only 20 years - but hey I'm 25 give me some slack) but it is a great comfort to know that there are others such myself who are feeling the impact of the news to Roddy's illness as deeply if not more than I. The news hit harder than I expected it would. You know that one day the news will come... but you never really know how you will react to it until one day you turn on your computer and there it is... They really shouldn't give you Internet access at work... So there I was - crying at work.

Crying for someone I had only met once - briefly - but will spend a lifetime knowing.

thank yout for posting all your wonderful notes about Roddy. I feel very lucky to know all of you are out there.

~jennifer

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Subject: re: favorite movie

Bullwhip Griffin is also my favorite Roddy movie...

--
Dana Holland

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Subject: Re: favorite movies

Actually, Sue, the kisses between Roddy and Suzanne bothered me a little, too, but he was so cute in that movie! Did you ever see a show back in the 80's called "Bridges to Cross" with Roddy and Suzanne? No one has mentioned that show. It only lasted a season I think, but I taped it. Eva Gabor was in it, too, and I remember one episode where Roddy and Eva were dancing. He's a very good dancer, too.

--Janet

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Subject: Liz Taylor helps tend to ailing pal McDowall

Liz Taylor helps tend to ailing pal McDowall

September 22, 1998
BY BILL ZWECKER SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Hollywood is reeling from the sad news (first reported by Daily Variety's Army Archerd) that Roddy McDowall has terminal cancer. The Emmy- and Tony-winning actor is now receiving constant care and attention from lifelong pal Elizabeth Taylor_who is returning the love McDowall showered on her over the years during Taylor's own many health battles. McDowall was last in Chicago two years ago, starring in "Dial M For Murder" at the Shubert.

         Yea!!! Another "Bullwhip" fan! I think I fell in love more than ever with that movie. I still hold that type of person as my ideal... It goes to show what dreamers we all are (thank God).

Beth

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Subject: Re: favorite movies

> Actually, Sue, the kisses between Roddy and Suzanne bothered me a
> little, too, but he was so cute in that movie! Did you ever see a
> show back in the 80's called "Bridges to Cross" with Roddy and
> Suzanne? No one has mentioned that show. It only lasted a season I
> think, but I taped it. Eva Gabor was in it, too, and I remember one
> episode where Roddy and Eva were dancing. He's a very good dancer,
> too.
>
> --Janet

Don't forget "Tales of the Gold Monkey." I never missed it if I could possibly help it (VCRs are SOOO useful).

Beth

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Subject: Do tell us more, guys.

Ooh, I agree Stephanie! I would like more info too! They haven't even told us what type of cancer it is! I've been keeping an eye out in the media lately for new stuff, but zip. This is this first I've seen of the Liz Taylor article (which just made me want to cry more.. sniff, sniff.) And Jennifer, you've got me beat in years 'cause I'm 22. Guess us fans come from all ages and places!

--Kari

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Subject: Re: favorite movies

Every movie I have seen mentioned here is my favorite, I just can't pick one. They are all GREAT. But seeing you name them brings back the movie to me and I love remembering them.

Joni

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Subject: Re: favorite movies

Beth wrote:
>Don't forget "Tales of the Gold Monkey." I never missed it if I
>could possibly help it (VCRs are SOOO useful).

And The Fantastic Journey!

--Nancy

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Subject: Re: Two new members

Fright Night is one of my favs, too. I agree the third POTA has a depressing ending. I remember, as a child watching this film, being very distirbed when Corneilus and his family died.

Pamela

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Subject: Re: favorite movies

I wish I had some Tales of the Gold Monkey episodes on tape. I really liked Roddy in that rather roguish role.

Still sending my good thoughts to our ailing idol.

Pamela

-----Original Message-----
From: The Musgrave Foundation <rmgroup@juno.com>
To: The Musgrave Foundation <rmgroup@juno.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: favorite movies

Don't forget "Tales of the Gold Monkey." I never missed it if I could possibly help it (VCRs are SOOO useful).

Beth

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Subject: Re: favorite movies

The Disney channel showed "Bullwhip" just recently. Speaking of being a dreamer, Beth...I always had this dream of living in a great castle with an English butler like Roddy. You know, come to think of it, he was a butler in "Overboard" and "Scavenger Hunt." (Now there's another movie I liked! I thought it was hilarious!)
--Janet

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Subject: Re: favorite movies

Yes, Beth, I watched "Tales of the Gold Monkey" and taped some episodes. I always enjoyed that show.

--Janet

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Subject: Re: favorite movies

I only have one episode of Tales of the Gold Monkey on tape. The one where Roddy is tried for murder and sentenced to be guillotined.

Sue

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>
> I wish I had some Tales of the Gold Monkey episodes on tape. I
> really liked Roddy in that rather roguish role.
>
> Still sending my good thoughts to our ailing idol.
>
> Pamela
>


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Subject: Re: Do tell us more, guys.

Come on everyone. We have to pull together. The article said he's losing the battle not winning it. We have to stem that tide and turn it around. This is after all the Battle of the Ape for the planet. Right? Let's keep praying, it's not over yet.

Sue

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>
> Ooh, I agree Stephanie! I would like more info too! They haven't
> even told us what type of cancer it is! I've been keeping an eye out
> in the media lately for new stuff, but zip. This is this first I've
> seen of the Liz Taylor article (which just made me want to cry
> more..sniff, sniff.) And Jennifer, you've got me beat in years
> 'cause I'm 22. Guess us fans come from all ages and places!
>
> --Kari
>
>

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Subject: Fantastic Journey

OOOOOh, how I loved that one. I used to have fantasies about traveling through time with Dr. Jonathan Willoway and that psychic cat.

Cheryl

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Subject: Re: My Story...

I've mentioned the first time I'd every seen him on screen....but I never said why it had such an effect on me. I was 12 years old at the time, home life was lousy, school and even worse.....I was in such a major depression that, yeah, I considered offing myself. So, to get outta my downward funk, i went to the movies. Needless to say it cheered me up to such an extent that I couldn't think of killing myself. It just seemed so stupid (which was true). I then looked forward to any time that he'd appear on TV or in the movies. I guess you could say, he sorta saved my life. For that, I'm really thankful.

-- Lady Mara

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Subject: Re: Fantastic Journey

How about the "Martian Chronicles" anybody remember that one?

Sue

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>
> OOOOOh, how I loved that one. I used to have fantasies about
> traveling through time with Dr. Jonathan Willoway and that psychic
> cat.
>
> Cheryl
>

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Subject: Re: My Story...

Lady Mara. Thanks for your input. His gentle voice in my ear as I stood in front of the medicine cabinet saved my life more than once.

Lonely child, too.
Sue

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Subject: Re: Do tell us more, guys.

Sue,

You and everyone else is so right. By day, I work as a surgical technologist and there have been many times when a person has come to surgery and we just knew they would never leave the hospital---but instead they walked out. Like everything in life---medicine isn't 100% correct. We have to keep hanging in there with him.

Paige-Marie Hamilton

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Subject: Re: favorite movies

> Beth wrote:
> >Don't forget "Tales of the Gold Monkey." I never missed it if I
> >could possibly help it (VCRs are SOOO useful).
>
> And The Fantastic Journey!
>
> --Nancy
>
Tails of the Gold Monkey became a ritual for me and my best girlfriend while I was in high school. We would always meet in her room & have snacks and make a real event of it. My favorite episode was the one where Bonne Chance Louis (Roddy) found out he had a grown daughter on another island.

Bonne Chance mes Amis!

-Kathy, St. Paul, MN, USA

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Subject: Re:My Story...

Thank you for sharing your story, Lady Mara. It's amazing how Roddy has touched us in such a special way, isn't it?

And Sue, don't worry. I'm still sending out those prayers.

Cheryl

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Subject: Fantastic find!

Ha! I ran across a find that just made my day. While browsing through the mall this afternoon, I discovered a tape for sale of the original Fantastic Journey, uncut and awesomely packaged! This may not be such an unusual find for some of you people, but I've never seen an episode (no cable, no stations.. Southern Alberta, remember?), so this is an extremely rare find for me. So I'm just going to be deliriously happy if that's all right with everyone.
Yippee!

Kari

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Subject: Some news re Roddy

I can't name names per my intermediary's request not to attribute quote. Anyway, I wrote Intermediary to please ask, um, Thespian, who's a friend of Roddy's, for news. Thespian reported back to Intermediary that Thespian visited Roddy within the last two days, that Roddy is "in great spirits", and that all Roddy wants is for his friends not to be upset. Thespian also wrote that Roddy is resting comfortably at home.

--Mel

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Subject: Can send message to Roddy

Patricia Annino, webmaster of the Tales of the Gold Monkey site, has posted this notice in the website's bulletin board #21:

And don't forget, folks, if you'd like to send e-mail messages to Roddy, please send them to me at gmonkey@goldmonkey.com and I'll forward them all.

I think the guy who directed the latest Meryl Streep/William Hurt movie, "One True Thing", is the same Carl Franklin who appeared in Fantastic Journey.

Trivia ... I watched "Escape from Planet of the Apes" last night and as the credits rolled by, I was surprised to see one name: Army Archerd. He played the referee in the boxing match that Cornelius watched.

--Mel

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Subject: Re: Fantastic Journey

Army has been around for so long and is a friend to so many, they probably gave him a walk on.
Kyoko

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>
> Trivia ... I watched "Escape from Planet of the Apes" last night and
> as the credits rolled by, I was surprised to see one name: Army
> Archerd. He played the referee in the boxing match that Cornelius
> watched.
>
> --Mel

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Subject: Re: Fantastic Journey

Just saw a three video tape collection of the "Martian Chronicles" at a used book, video and music store for $20. Is Roddy only in part of this series?

Pamela

>How about the "Martian Chronicles" anybody remember that one?
>
>Sue

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Subject: Re: Fantastic Journey

I noticed that as well, I 'd didn't really recognize him in that brief scene.

Pamela

-----Original Message-----
Trivia ... I watched "Escape from Planet of the Apes" last night and as the credits rolled by, I was surprised to see one name: Army Archerd. He played the referee in the boxing match that Cornelius watched.

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Subject: favorite Roddy movie

I love The Legend of Hellhouse, and Bullwhip Griffin. I also remember Tales of the Gold Monkey on TV -- Roddy is the reason I watched it.

Pam, a.k.a Katy Scarlett

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Subject: Re: Thanks for update

Mel,

Thank you for the update on Mr. McDowall and the E-Mail address.
It's very much appreciated.

Paige-Marie Hamilton

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Subject: Re: Fantastic Journey

yes.
kyoko

----------
> Just saw a three video tape collection of the "Martian Chronicles" at
> a used book, video and music store for $20. Is Roddy only in part of
> this series?
>
> Pamela

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Subject: (no subject)

I realize it's usual to reply to an e-mail by including the message being replied to, but I'd actually like to reply to a few.

I agree whole-heartedly with Sue and Paige-Marie who said basically it isn't over and medicine isn't fool-proof. And like Stephanie the Sam, I'm not ready to write him off either.

When I heard the news it was like someone just reached in and twisted my soul. An I too have been a "preoccupied brooding mess". I thought I had a pretty good handle on it until I read the e-mail regarding his illness. I had to wait till today to reply to any of them.

And I can also relate to being lifted out of bouts of great depression by Mr McDowall.

I would like to weigh in with a thought regarding the media coverage, or rather, lake thereof. I think it speaks well of his close friends that not one word has been leaked to any area of the media about the exact form of cancer or any precise diagnosis [such has - he only has 6 months to live, etc.]. He's very fortunate to have friends that loyal and caring. And I'm sure he deserves no less.

It's terrific to hear he's in great spirits - that's half the battle.

Thank for the address.

-- Morgan

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Subject: Thank you

Mel. Thanks for the news. As you know I've been using you as a sounding board for the last week, with my nephew, my change of life rollercoaster emotions, and my shakey position at work. This morning I get an E-Mail from my neice who's editor of her college newspaper that she's been advised to wear a bullet proof vest. (I hope she's joking). Anyway your news has brightened my whole day. Also in the message "you can send messages to Roddy" the answering web-site was to goldmonkey.... will it still get to him? Or should I try again using this web site.

Here's hoping the outlook stays bright.

Sue

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Subject: New member

Warm welcome to new member Benita (that *is* your name, right?)
benita@mail.usa.com

--Mel

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Subject: Re: (no subject)

I'm with you, Morgan -- the less the Media sticks it's nosy little self into Roddy's life the better. If you get right down to it, details as in what cancer or how much cancer or how long (although if any doctor laid down some high-handed pronouncement like 'six months' he should be beat about the head with a blunt instrument) is all really irrelevant and none of the world-at-large's business. The only thing I'm concerned about is how Roddy is doing and how he feels. The post from Mel that Thespian reported he was "in great spirits" really improved my day. That's all I wanted to hear. I can also report that I've put my brooding on the back burner by distracting myself with episodes of the BBC's Sherlock Holmes series for the past week. It has nothing to do with Roddy, although while I was trolling through my stepmom's tapes for another SH ep I ran across a 'Hart to Hart' show with him in it. An appreciated extra, there. :)

Anyway, I'm past the pulling of hair state and sliding grudgingly into the philosophical stage. What I found really nice was how many people in my immediate vicinity, like work, are also aware of Roddy's illness and genuninely concerned. The man's fans are legion, no doubt about that.

Stephanie the Sam (who is calm now, really -- really I am)

----------
>
> I would like to weigh in with a thought regarding the media coverage,
> or rather, lake thereof. I think it speaks well of his close friends
> that not one word has been leaked to any area of the media about the
> exact form of cancer or any precise diagnosis [such has - he only has
> 6 months to live, etc.]. He's very fortunate to have friends that
> loyal and caring. And I'm sure he deserves no less.
>
> It's terrific to hear he's in great spirits - that's half the battle.
>
> Thank for the address.
>
>
>
> -- Morgan
>


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Subject: Re: (no subject)

Stephanie the Sam wrote:

> I can also report that I've put my brooding on the back burner by
> distracting myself with episodes of the BBC's Sherlock Holmes
> series for the past week.

What I do is listen to Roddy all day singing "The Seven Deadly Virtues" from the Camelot soundtrack.

--Mel

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Subject: Re: Invisible Roddy

for some reason, I cannot send a new message to the rmgroup, but it will go out as a reply. So here goes,

the latest issue of people magazine, Oct.5, 1998, page 123 annouces Roddy's illness. I't the first time I saw it on paper and somehow it makes it more real.

This message was a good one to use for a response for my above item. So you liked Drop Dead Fred. When I was head of hospitality for the Seattle International Film Festival, I took care of Dutch director Ate deJong who later directed his first american film, Drop Dead Fred.
Kyoko
----------
>
> Also, if you want to not feel so alone in being an adult with an
> invisible friend (or more), please see the film "Drop Dead Fred". The
> invisible friend in this film has definate Mollymauk-ish qualities!!
>
> -Kathy, a visible friend to an entire invisible entourage
>

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Subject: Re: Invisible Roddy

KYOKO wrote:

> the latest issue of people magazine, Oct.5, 1998, page 123
> annouces Roddy's illness. I't the first time I saw it on paper and
> somehow it makes it more real.

It has also been reported in Entertainment Weekly, Oct 2 1998 issue, on page 15, as follows:

Ailing - Actor and celebrity photographer Roddy McDowall, 70, reportedly with an undisclosed form of cancer. A spokesman for McDowall declines to comment.

Welcome, Benita!

Lynne Ackerman

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Subject: Re: (no subject)

although i don't always believe the enquirer, i just thought that i would relate their latest update on roddy, which states that roddy has brain cancer that has spread to the spine and that he has only 6 weeks to live, but that he is in good spirits and ready to accept the end of his life, he feels that his life has been so fulfilling, filled with friends, fame and love that it is ok if it ends now. liz taylor has vowed to stand by him until the very end, as he has always been there for her.. she can't bear the though of losing her best friend and neither can I. But roddy has enriched so many of our lives and alhough i will miss him terribly i still pray for a miracle but if not that, that God lets him have as much comfort as possible as he lives his time.

sabryna

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Subject: It's Alive!

Hey hey hey!!

Yes, it's true. I am alive. Mel did not kill me and stuff me into her basement, despite what rumors you may have heard!

Hello to all you many new members! What a delight to have you aboard!

Just to let you know, I've finally begun doing screen captures again... maybe this will help some of us feel better... Anyway, there are new RM pics on the website under the television section. The first new batch is from Twilight Zone. I'll be adding Shock Treatment (to the movie section) and captures from A&E's Biography of Roddy McDowall: Hollywood's Best Friend.

--Roc

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Subject: FYI

Just thought I would let people know that I have been printing out the guestbook entries and mailing them to RM -- so he definitely knows how many of us are thinking about him and about all the good wishes and prayers being sent in his direction.

--Roc

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Subject: Re: (no subject)

Sabryna,

I know what you mean about the tabloids. I have to say, because I'm in the medical profession, I couldn't help but wonder what type of cancer Mr. McDowall has, that would effect him so quickly. I realize it doesn't matter...but it's somewhat of an occupational hazard. At any rate, I spoke with a couple of co-workers, who understand and are compassionate towards my feelings about Mr. McD and brain cancer was the second one we came up with. Also, one of my dearest friends, a nurse, lost her mom to brain CA. She said her mom was, for the most part, pain free during her illness. That was comforting to hear.

Also, it's been nice knowing that his friends have allowed him his privacy. Although, I'm not surprised. At no time more then now, does he deserve whatever he wants. Thanks, Roc, for sending the messages.

Paige-Marie Hamilton

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Subject: Re: New member

Welcome Benita.

Sue

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Subject: Re: (no subject)

I agree. I, too am just about over the shock of the news, but I continue to pray and hope for the best. Even if the news is what's best for Roddy and not for me.

Sue

----------
>
> I'm with you, Morgan -- the less the Media sticks it's nosy little self
> into Roddy's life the better. If you get right down to it, details as in
> what cancer or how much cancer or how long (although if any doctor laid
> down some high-handed pronouncement like 'six months' he should be beat
> about the head with a blunt instrument) is all really irrelevant and none
> of the world-at-large's business. The only thing I'm concerned about is
> how Roddy is doing and how he feels. The post from Mel that Mister
> Thespian reported he was "in great spirits" really improved my day.
> That's all I wanted to hear. I can also report that I've put my brooding
> on the back burner by distracting myself with episodes of the BBC's
> Sherlock Holmes series for the past week. It has nothing to do with
> Roddy, although while I was trolling through my stepmom's tapes for
> another SH ep I ran across a 'Hart to Hart' show with him in it. An
> appreciated extra, there. :)
>
> Anyway, I'm past the pulling of hair state and sliding grudgingly into
> the philosophical stage. What I found really nice was how many people in my
> immediate vicinity, like work, are also aware of Roddy's illness and
> genuninely concerned. The man's fans are legion, no doubt about that.
>
> Stephanie the Sam (who is calm now, really -- really I am)

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Subject: Re: New member

> Warm welcome to new member Benita (that *is* your name, right?)
> benita@mail.usa.com
>
>
Yes, that's my name. Even I couldn't make that up.--Ha Ha. Glad to know I am on the list. My computer skills are dreadful and I was't sure if what I sent got to the right place or not.

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Subject: An address?

I was just spending a few moments reading over the guest book on the RM tribute site and I saw that someone listed as "unknown" had posted Roddy's address for those who wanted to write and convey their best wishes. The address they offered was 3110 Brookdale Rd, North Hollywood with no zip code. They also said they felt this information would not be abused by Roddy's fans. Just out of curiosity I typed that addy into my computer's Automaps Plus software to see if it could pinpoint it on a map for me. It could not match that exact address, but it did offer one at 3110 Brookdale Rd, Studio City, CA, 91604. Admittedly this kind of software is far from infallible and it's totally possible the N. Hollywood address is correct -- though I did notice that the site my machine jammed a pushpin into was North of Hollywood and kind of up in the hills, where I'd expect an expensive house to be.

Anyway, I thought I'd bounce this off you knowledgable listers 'cause you'd obviously know better than me which is correct. I don't know about the ethics in farming out Roddy's address, even to the folks visiting the guestbook, if this is in fact the genuine article. I suppose it couldn't hurt at this point. I did have one friend who expressed a desire to write to him, so it would be nice to have an address to give her. If there's a better, alternate address I can give her I'd go for that, too.

I'm kind of vacillating myself on whether to try to write to him or not. I've never been much good at writing those type of letters, since I get so hung up on what to say and how to say it. In the end I just give up and go back to admiring from afar.

Stephanie the Sam

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Subject: Re: An address?

Months ago, before the guest book--so it wasn't me, I crused the internet for an address for Roddy and came up with the 3110 Brookdale Rd, Studio City address(his agent's maybe?) and have sent out two "best wishes" cards. Nothing has come back yet, but it's only been a week since we heard the news. Since it is the internet, it can't be all that private and hopefully the cards got through.

Sue

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Subject: Re: An address?

> I was just spending a few moments reading over the guest book on the
> RM tribute site and I saw that someone listed as "unknown" had posted
> Roddy's address for those who wanted to write and convey their best
> wishes. The address they offered was 3110 Brookdale Rd, North
> Hollywood with no zip code. They also said they felt this
> information would not be abused by Roddy's fans. Just out of
> curiosity I typed that addy into my computer's Automaps Plus software
> to see if it could pinpoint it on a map for me. It could not match
> that exact address, but it did offer one at 3110 Brookdale Rd, Studio
> City, CA, 91604. Admittedly this kind of software is far from
> infallible and it's totally possible the N. Hollywood address is
> correct --
> Stephanie the Sam
>
>
>

91604 is the correct zip code. Any card or letter will arrive whether you list N. Hollywood or Studio City ... it's the zip code that counts. Technically, I think the post office considers it Studio City, but RM's own letterhead and return address stamp say N. Hollywood.

--Roc

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Subject: TV guide for October 1998

The online RM TV guide has been updated. URL is http://www.smithway.org/rm/other/tvsked.html

--Mel

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Subject: AMPAS President Selects Chairs of Standing Committees

In an official press release dated September 28, 1998 (http://www.oscars.org/pressreleases/98.09.28.a.html), the chairs of 37 standing committees of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS) were announced by Academy President Robert Rehme. The committee chairs will serve for the 1998-1999 fiscal year. Named to the Finance Committee was -- Roddy McDowall!

This is amazing -- Roddy's colleagues certainly have not written him off. He's also currently treasurer of the Academy Board of Governors and president of the Academy Foundation for 1998-1999.

--Mel

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Subject: Re: AMPAS President Selects Chairs of Standing Committees

I think it's about time we all banded together to force the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences to present Roddy with a life time achievement award while he can enjoy it.

Thanks for the news.

Sue

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Subject: Re: AMPAS President Selects Chairs of Standing Committees

>
> I think it's about time we all banded together to force the Academy of
> Motion Picture Arts and Sciences to present Roddy with a life time
> achievement award while he can enjoy it.
>
> Sue

Oh, for sure! In Roddy's case, it WOULD be a lifetime achievement award, as he's been acting almost all his life. I'm amazed the academy hasn't given him one yet.

Kari

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Subject: Internet Message

I was thinking that Roddy had already received some kind of life-time achievement award. Am I wrong?

Janet

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Subject: New article from Archerd

Don't panic -- the headline looks scary but the article itself is benign, if not substantial.

--Mel

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Wednesday September 30 8:31 AM EDT
ARCHERD: Friends gather around stricken McDowall
By Army Archerd, Daily Variety Senior Columnist

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Michael Douglas talked to Roddy McDowall and "reassured him" that he (Michael) would continue the commitment that Roddy has had over the years to the Motion Picture & TV Home and Hospital.

Roddy (suffering from terminal cancer) has been receiving countless calls of encouragement plus visits from friends such as Lauren Bacall, who flew out from N.Y. to see him, as did Dominick Dunne. Others who have been over to see him: Elizabeth Taylor who had dinner at his house, Kate Burton, Joan and George Axelrod, Tuesday Weld, Anne (Mrs. Kirk) Douglas and Edie (Mrs. Lew) Wasserman.

If you adore cartoons, you might like to watch for the following:

The New Batman Adventures (RM as the voice of the Mad Hatter)

   "Over the Edge" (first aired 5/23/98)
   "Animal Act"    (first aired 9/26/98)

   "Brainwashed Part 2:  I am not a Hat" (first aired 9/15/98)
   "Brainwashed Part 3:  Wash Harder"    (first aired 9/16/98)

--Mel

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Subject: Re: Internet Message

He may have received a life time award of some kind, but I'm thinking oscar here.

Sue

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> I was thinking that Roddy had already received some kind of life-
> time achievement award. Am I wrong?
>
> Janet
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Subject: Re: Internet Message

It seems to me that Roddy and a couple of other actors had received some kind of special award in Hollywood a year or so ago, but maybe it's been longer than that. Roc should know. Maybe she can jog my memory. I didn't think it was an oscar though.

Janet


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